__fetcheruser123 msg #43421 - Ignore __fetcheruser123 |
5/2/2006 2:25:14 PM
I thought this was interesting, backtesting Muddy's filter with these parameters:
Stop Loss: N/A
Profit Stop: 2%
Trailing Stop Loss: N/A
Minimum Holding Days: N/A
Maximum holding days: 25
Exit Trigger #1: Slow Stochastic(5,5) Slow %D > 40
Approach Information | Approach Name: Muddy Combined - RSI(2) < 1 | Test started on 12/31/2003 ended on 12/30/2005, covering 504 days | Filter used: | Muddy Combined - RSI(2) < 1 (saved filter) |
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Trade Statistics | There were 3372 total stocks entered. Of those, 3347 or 99.26% were complete and 25 or 0.74% were open. | Of the 3347 completed trades, 2871 trades or 85.78%resulted in a net gain. | Your average net change for completed trades was: 0.45%. | The average draw down of your approach was: -5.48%. | The average max profit of your approach was: 5.14% | The Reward/Risk ratio for this approach is: 1.33 | Annualized Return on Investment (ROI): 50.13%, the ROI of ^SPX was: 6.12%. |
Exit Statistics | Stop Loss was triggered 0 times or 0.00% of the time. | Stop Profit was triggered 2795 times or 83.51% of the time. | Trailing Stop Loss was triggered 0 times or 0.00% of the time. | You held for the maximum period of time (25 days) 10 times or 0.30% of the time. | An exit trigger was executed 542 times or 16.19% of the time. |
Statistics By Holding Period | | Completed | 2 day chg | 5 day chg | 10 day chg | 25 day chg | 40 day chg | Winners: | 2871 | 1761 | 1747 | 1686 | 1683 | 1640 | Losers: | 465 | 1510 | 1547 | 1629 | 1654 | 1710 | Win/Loss Ratio: | 6.17:1 | 1.17:1 | 1.13:1 | 1.03:1 | 1.02:1 | 0.96:1 | Net Change: | 0.45% | 0.82% | 1.09% | 0.90% | 1.17% | 1.80% |
Statistics By Variable: Match Price | | <1 | <2 | <3 | <4 | <5 | <6 | <7 | <8 | <9 | <10 | Completed | 11:4 | 527:56 | 424:48 | 356:54 | 342:57 | 289:50 | 270:61 | 228:47 | 224:51 | 199:37 | 2 day chg | 8:6 | 320:237 | 247:217 | 211:186 | 206:191 | 187:150 | 162:160 | 151:126 | 138:134 | 131:102 | 5 day chg | 10:4 | 311:252 | 254:209 | 220:185 | 197:197 | 175:161 | 163:165 | 145:134 | 133:143 | 139:96 | 10 day chg | 9:6 | 289:279 | 254:218 | 212:193 | 193:203 | 175:162 | 165:166 | 137:143 | 122:154 | 129:105 | 25 day chg | 9:6 | 298:283 | 242:228 | 198:213 | 200:198 | 169:169 | 162:171 | 133:145 | 135:141 | 137:99 | 40 day chg | 6:8 | 278:307 | 231:244 | 203:207 | 190:212 | 176:165 | 158:175 | 128:150 | 143:133 | 127:108 |
Statistics By Variable: Average Volume | | <15.0M | <30.0M | <45.0M | <60.0M | <75.0M | <90.0M | <105.0M | <120.0M | <135.0M | <150.0M | Completed | 2852:463 | 7:1 | 5:1 | 5:0 | 1:0 | - | - | 1:0 | - | - | 2 day chg | 1748:1501 | 6:3 | 2:4 | 4:1 | 1:0 | - | - | 0:1 | - | - | 5 day chg | 1737:1535 | 6:3 | 2:4 | 1:4 | 0:1 | - | - | 1:0 | - | - | 10 day chg | 1678:1615 | 4:5 | 3:3 | 0:5 | 0:1 | - | - | 1:0 | - | - | 25 day chg | 1672:1643 | 4:5 | 4:2 | 2:3 | 1:0 | - | - | 0:1 | - | - | 40 day chg | 1630:1698 | 3:6 | 4:2 | 1:4 | 1:0 | - | - | 1:0 | - | - |
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BFreshour 139 posts msg #43429 - Ignore BFreshour |
5/2/2006 4:25:15 PM
Whenever you net change is this low:
Your average net change for completed trades was: 0.45%.
You aren't going to be making any money due to slippage and commissions.
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__fetcheruser123 msg #43430 - Ignore __fetcheruser123 |
5/2/2006 4:41:36 PM
BFreshour,
You have a good point but I disagree that no profit can be made. If you have enough margin, it's easy to make a profit on frequent 0.45% gains. I've been doing it for the last few weeks. I only average about 1.5% a week but, compounded, that is a descent yearly ROI.
-Chris
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__fetcheruser123 msg #43431 - Ignore __fetcheruser123 |
5/2/2006 4:42:35 PM
Here is another example with a 4% profit stop.
Stop Loss: N/A
Profit Stop: 4%
Trailing Stop Loss: N/A
Minimum Holding Days: N/A
Maximum holding days: 25
Exit Trigger #1: Slow Stochastic(5,5) Slow %D > 40
Approach Information | Approach Name: Muddy Combined - RSI(2) < 1 (stochastic exit) | Test started on 04/30/2004 ended on 05/01/2006, covering 503 days | Filter used: | Muddy Combined - RSI(2) < 1 (saved filter) |
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Trade Statistics | There were 3062 total stocks entered. Of those, 3047 or 99.51% were complete and 15 or 0.49% were open. | Of the 3047 completed trades, 2315 trades or 75.98%resulted in a net gain. | Your average net change for completed trades was: 0.82%. | The average draw down of your approach was: -6.89%. | The average max profit of your approach was: 6.06% | The Reward/Risk ratio for this approach is: 1.38 | Annualized Return on Investment (ROI): 51.32%, the ROI of ^SPX was: 8.43%. |
Exit Statistics | Stop Loss was triggered 0 times or 0.00% of the time. | Stop Profit was triggered 2078 times or 68.20% of the time. | Trailing Stop Loss was triggered 0 times or 0.00% of the time. | You held for the maximum period of time (25 days) 24 times or 0.79% of the time. | An exit trigger was executed 945 times or 31.01% of the time. |
Statistics By Holding Period | | Completed | 2 day chg | 5 day chg | 10 day chg | 25 day chg | 40 day chg | Winners: | 2315 | 1568 | 1566 | 1542 | 1517 | 1482 | Losers: | 709 | 1389 | 1408 | 1432 | 1404 | 1371 | Win/Loss Ratio: | 3.27:1 | 1.13:1 | 1.11:1 | 1.08:1 | 1.08:1 | 1.08:1 | Net Change: | 0.82% | 0.69% | 0.93% | 1.17% | 1.96% | 3.03% |
Statistics By Variable: Match Price | | <1 | <2 | <3 | <4 | <5 | <6 | <7 | <8 | <9 | <10 | Completed | 13:5 | 474:100 | 321:74 | 276:84 | 273:87 | 242:69 | 201:89 | 183:66 | 166:76 | 165:59 | 2 day chg | 10:6 | 303:244 | 198:189 | 187:163 | 187:169 | 168:141 | 142:139 | 134:115 | 120:119 | 119:103 | 5 day chg | 10:5 | 297:254 | 202:185 | 198:159 | 178:174 | 172:137 | 142:144 | 128:123 | 112:130 | 127:96 | 10 day chg | 9:7 | 280:271 | 216:177 | 194:159 | 176:179 | 169:136 | 151:137 | 116:132 | 105:137 | 125:97 | 25 day chg | 9:6 | 281:272 | 201:180 | 179:176 | 182:163 | 161:139 | 148:136 | 109:126 | 116:119 | 131:86 | 40 day chg | 5:8 | 262:274 | 185:184 | 184:160 | 178:167 | 170:128 | 140:140 | 112:114 | 122:109 | 124:86 |
Statistics By Variable: Average Volume | | <10.0M | <20.0M | <30.0M | <40.0M | <50.0M | <60.0M | <70.0M | <80.0M | <90.0M | <100.0M | Completed | 2296:703 | 13:3 | 0:1 | 4:1 | 2:0 | - | 0:1 | - | - | - | 2 day chg | 1557:1375 | 6:10 | 0:1 | 2:3 | 2:0 | - | 1:0 | - | - | - | 5 day chg | 1555:1394 | 8:8 | 0:1 | 2:3 | 1:1 | - | 0:1 | - | - | - | 10 day chg | 1534:1415 | 5:11 | 0:1 | 3:2 | 0:2 | - | 0:1 | - | - | - | 25 day chg | 1505:1392 | 6:9 | 0:1 | 4:1 | 1:1 | - | 1:0 | - | - | - | 40 day chg | 1471:1358 | 5:10 | 0:1 | 4:1 | 1:1 | - | 1:0 | - | - | - |
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__fetcheruser123 msg #43432 - Ignore __fetcheruser123 |
5/2/2006 4:54:29 PM
And, 6% profit stop.
Stop Loss: N/A
Profit Stop: 6%
Trailing Stop Loss: N/A
Minimum Holding Days: N/A
Maximum holding days: 25
Exit Trigger #1: Slow Stochastic(5,5) Slow %D > 40
Approach Information | Approach Name: Muddy Combined - RSI(2) < 1 (stochastic exit) | Test started on 04/30/2004 ended on 05/01/2006, covering 503 days | Filter used: | Muddy Combined - RSI(2) < 1 (saved filter) |
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Trade Statistics | There were 2990 total stocks entered. Of those, 2967 or 99.23% were complete and 23 or 0.77% were open. | Of the 2967 completed trades, 2073 trades or 69.87%resulted in a net gain. | Your average net change for completed trades was: 1.18%. | The average draw down of your approach was: -7.69%. | The average max profit of your approach was: 6.96% | The Reward/Risk ratio for this approach is: 1.44 | Annualized Return on Investment (ROI): 56.56%, the ROI of ^SPX was: 8.43%. |
Exit Statistics | Stop Loss was triggered 0 times or 0.00% of the time. | Stop Profit was triggered 1632 times or 55.01% of the time. | Trailing Stop Loss was triggered 0 times or 0.00% of the time. | You held for the maximum period of time (25 days) 30 times or 1.01% of the time. | An exit trigger was executed 1305 times or 43.98% of the time. |
Statistics By Holding Period | | Completed | 2 day chg | 5 day chg | 10 day chg | 25 day chg | 40 day chg | Winners: | 2073 | 1526 | 1524 | 1495 | 1481 | 1446 | Losers: | 857 | 1359 | 1379 | 1410 | 1370 | 1339 | Win/Loss Ratio: | 2.42:1 | 1.12:1 | 1.10:1 | 1.06:1 | 1.08:1 | 1.08:1 | Net Change: | 1.18% | 0.68% | 0.84% | 1.09% | 1.96% | 3.02% |
Statistics By Variable: Match Price | | <1 | <2 | <3 | <4 | <5 | <6 | <7 | <8 | <9 | <10 | Completed | 11:6 | 427:121 | 284:95 | 256:100 | 222:120 | 223:80 | 180:101 | 167:79 | 151:87 | 151:68 | 2 day chg | 9:6 | 288:237 | 192:183 | 186:161 | 178:164 | 167:139 | 137:136 | 132:113 | 118:118 | 119:101 | 5 day chg | 9:5 | 283:246 | 196:179 | 197:158 | 169:169 | 171:135 | 138:140 | 126:122 | 109:130 | 126:94 | 10 day chg | 8:7 | 265:265 | 208:174 | 192:159 | 167:174 | 167:135 | 146:134 | 113:132 | 104:135 | 124:95 | 25 day chg | 8:6 | 271:261 | 195:175 | 180:172 | 172:159 | 159:138 | 144:132 | 106:126 | 116:116 | 130:84 | 40 day chg | 4:8 | 248:266 | 181:178 | 184:157 | 168:163 | 168:127 | 138:135 | 111:112 | 121:107 | 123:85 |
Statistics By Variable: Average Volume | | <10.0M | <20.0M | <30.0M | <40.0M | <50.0M | <60.0M | <70.0M | <80.0M | <90.0M | <100.0M | Completed | 2060:845 | 9:7 | 0:1 | 3:2 | 1:1 | - | 0:1 | - | - | - | 2 day chg | 1515:1345 | 6:10 | 0:1 | 2:3 | 2:0 | - | 1:0 | - | - | - | 5 day chg | 1513:1365 | 8:8 | 0:1 | 2:3 | 1:1 | - | 0:1 | - | - | - | 10 day chg | 1487:1393 | 5:11 | 0:1 | 3:2 | 0:2 | - | 0:1 | - | - | - | 25 day chg | 1469:1358 | 6:9 | 0:1 | 4:1 | 1:1 | - | 1:0 | - | - | - | 40 day chg | 1435:1326 | 5:10 | 0:1 | 4:1 | 1:1 | - | 1:0 | - | - | - |
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