pthomas215 1,251 posts msg #129167 - Ignore pthomas215 |
6/15/2016 10:29:16 PM
It appears that TVIX will respond to volatility due to the big brexit meeting next week. Any thoughts on how to play England possibly leaving the current European union?
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johnpaulca 12,036 posts msg #129170 - Ignore johnpaulca modified |
6/15/2016 11:39:18 PM
Brexit....This is the kind of sentiment will leads to extreme risk-aversion. Global capital might soon be pouring into the US, pushing bond prices up and interest rates down.....how do you say...negative interest rate.
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pthomas215 1,251 posts msg #129171 - Ignore pthomas215 |
6/16/2016 12:20:23 AM
I agree. I think it's going to be bigger than people think. by next week there may be a rush to bonds and cash due to instability. I would think TVIX will pull back a bit until next Wednesday, and then explode.
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graftonian 1,089 posts msg #129174 - Ignore graftonian |
6/16/2016 7:38:27 AM
I agree, the overall effect will be negative for equities.
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Kevin_in_GA 4,599 posts msg #129194 - Ignore Kevin_in_GA |
6/16/2016 5:49:07 PM
Volatility ETF pair trades
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pthomas215 1,251 posts msg #129200 - Ignore pthomas215 |
6/17/2016 1:07:53 AM
Kevin, do you mind explaining your strategy around pair trades? what do you look for, when do you go long/short?
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Kevin_in_GA 4,599 posts msg #129201 - Ignore Kevin_in_GA |
6/17/2016 7:41:06 AM
You guys always want to play directional on these events, leaving yourself open to guessing wrong and getting screwed. I prefer to use mean reversion on pair trades which, while perhaps not giving the same thrill of a big win will minimize the risk of loss.
Example:
This simply plays VIXM versus VXZ - if the ratio of these two ETFs goes outside of the BB(14,2) in either direction you bet long/short on a mean reversion.
How has this particular pair strategy done over the past five years?
https://www.pairtradinglab.com/backtests/V2Pg8zHfkxL8y57c
It returned almost 10% per year (beating the return of the S&P over the same time frame) but had only a 2.2% max drawdown and was profitable 100% of the time - 101 pair trades entered, 101 profitable.
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johnpaulca 12,036 posts msg #129205 - Ignore johnpaulca |
6/17/2016 9:04:59 AM
Kevin, this is fantastic, could make my pairs trading a lot easier....thank you!!
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pthomas215 1,251 posts msg #129207 - Ignore pthomas215 |
6/17/2016 9:42:35 AM
Thank you Kevin. not trying to play directional...just wanted to understand what you were saying. some of this stuff is new to me.
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ferndave 65 posts msg #129256 - Ignore ferndave |
6/20/2016 3:47:37 PM
Kevin, for those who don't have an account that allows shorting, can this filter be used with buying XIV instead? Use it like an indicator?
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